map in progress CP_Runner

[tom_armitage]

so i have to much time on my hands, so i have decided i might aswell have a go at mapmaking, can anyone reccomend some good tutorials to help get me going.

NOTE.

The main subject of this thread will be my current map, CP_RUNNER - Working Title,
The gamplay is suposed to be fast, push me pull me gameplay, the main features being the full freight train that runs the length od the map and through / under the main cp

More info will follow in subsequent posts.

[Killzone]

I recently learned it. Just try some and press F9 a lot of times. Right now i finished 1 fun map, and building 2 normal maps .

[Foozy]

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=13A8C11B9FC96967

Not for TF2 but it's pretty much the same. Feel free to ask me if you bump into any trouble.

[tom_armitage]

there we go, a bit small but it has full functionality,
thanks for the help guys, any ideas of anything you would like to see then just go for it.

[Demon_Hunter]

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=13A8C11B9FC96967

Not for TF2 but it's pretty much the same. Feel free to ask me if you bump into any trouble.

This is the tutorial I was gonna recommend.
hmm check out this.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_2_Level_Creation

[tom_armitage]

yes, i fount the valve blog quite good, but it requres alot of page flicking.

i have started on a new map, the idea being having 3 cp in a sort of push forwards style,

only problem is i cannot get some brush based entities to stay as brush based entities, and i made spawnpoints but upon testing i spawn below them
any help would be appreciated
 
edit - sorted now, needed to elevate the spawn points off the ground due to player height.

Its starting to look good now, i will get it to a basic state and we can do some playtesting.

[brim4brim]

Get autopager for firefox and it might be able to auto load next page and append it to bottom of current page.

I think it works well, don't know if it'll be of any use in that situation.

its good for forums too but you have to wait for someone to program each site or forum software type thing.

[tom_armitage]

here you go, the completed beta red area, the rased area will contain a controll point, the room to the left is the spawnroom, the 2 orange boxes are an empty mine truck and a bare bombcart, they work quite well as a springboard for good players to get up quick

[tom_armitage]

basics of Blu spawn is done, just going to make it look nice, if im lucky i might get some playtesting done at the weekend if anyone is interested

[Killzone]

Personally, i think it's better when you start by making the big picture first on paper, after that you finetune it on paper. Then you launch Hammer and start making a rough setup to make the distances allright, in dev textures. Then you finetune the level with dev textures and a little surroundings.

[Demon_Hunter]

Well, the fact is the Tom is new to mapping(?). And well, it is probably a good idea just to learn the tools and so on. And when you are really gonna do a map, I scetch is a very good thing to have, tough it can be hard to imagine in 3d

[tom_armitage]

yep im new to mapping, i have been coming up with rough ideas for maps for a while and sketching them out, mostly on scraps while at work or school.

i made my rough shapes first then fine tuned to get the right sizes, saying that im still fine tuning before i add any objectives to i can may multiple modes for the map.

[tom_armitage]

Well time to Bump, Yes the lighting is horrible, but i cannot be bothered runnign a full compile everytime i want to test somthing.

Well firstoff, i got my train of death working on a 60s (aprox) back and forwards


The bit you see behind the train i think this area will not be accessable.


An overview of the red spawn/cap


Then an outlook




Its slowly coming together

[brim4brim]

Looks ok, I think if your going to have inaccessible areas that look kind of accessible, you should stick a barrier in front of them or something to make it more obvious you can't go there.

Personally I hate nothing more than trying to go somewhere I should be able to go in a game and then being told to try again

[tom_armitage]

Looks ok, I think if your going to have inaccessible areas that look kind of accessible, you should stick a barrier in front of them or something to make it more obvious you can't go there.

Personally I hate nothing more than trying to go somewhere I should be able to go in a game and then being told to try again

If you notice there are 2 of the pictures that feature the barb fence, there is also a player clip brush on them, i was going to use buildings and fences to surround that area then a playerclip to contain it all.
Its just on the todo list, i wanted to finish the train before i started anything else.


The train has all the features, its bound as a group with the func train and a "train kill" brush (sorry i forgot the name). the 2 garrages also do damage, i just need to sort out some warning lights but that a last min job