Leaving NDH

[Foozy]

I think you don't quite get the point with dediservers Alex. The point isn't that they're easy to manage and easy to find in server lists. It's that they're customizable.

Vanilla 24man servers would only be fun for so long. And if I got it right you as a host have no control over server settings in MW2. All servers are hosted by users and routed through IW-net hence giving the average player >100 ping.

Customizability (Is that a word?) over Simplicity any day for me.

[Alex.rar]

tf2 never had as many players as cs:s though

[Xearo_Disaster]

Cya, Alex. Sad to see you go.

[brim4brim]

I think TF2 has new players for everyone that leaves though so its maintaining its current level of users or at least I think it probably is.

Just me talking about it has a couple of people in work thinking of getting it.

[asaguda]

See yas, Alex.

All servers are hosted by users and routed through IW-net hence giving the average player >100 ping.

Wut? If you're getting bad ping it's cause you've either got a bad connection or you haven't forwarded your ports. I couldn't find any games with less than 100 ping until I forwarded the ports- Something which should be unnecessary to do while joining other games. Since then I've had no laggy games whatsoever. ANYWAYS let's not derail the thread.

[Gridlock]

It's Peer-2-Peer and the consumers lost the game.

[JustMoose]

TF2 is dying slowly, but it wont ages nearly as fast as MW2 it will still have a huge fan base by the time  CoD8 (oh they better not take the series that far) comes out

[asaguda]

IWNet is not that bad. They've been patching things in silence and I find the matchmaking very good! My only complaint would be it's not exactly 'match'making, as that would imply finding players roughly your skill, and in MW2 MASSIVE teamstacks can happen.

You should actually try it before you try to criticize it negatively. The P2P thing is also smooth, but personally I think there should be a dedicated server option where you customize the server and have communities and things like that. Communities can still play together by just grouping up before finding a match, but that's not as.. Well, 'flowing' as just poking a server list to find your community's servers.

[Alex.rar]

for what it is it is supprisingly smooth and its so much better than searchin down a huge list of servers - but choosing what map you want shud be something they add